MSNBC Live - 3/21/2008 8:47 am
ALEX WITT:
The Secretary of
State has had to send a personal apology to Barack Obama for
security breaches involving the Senator’s personal information.
Condoleeza Rice addressed that issue just about an hour ago:
Condoleeza Rice:
I told him that I was sorry and I told him that I myself would be
very disturbed if I learned that somebody looked into my passport
file and therefore I will stay on top of it until I get to the
bottom of it.
ALEX WITT:
Staying on top of
it indeed. We understand that Senator Obama’s office will be briefed
by the State Department’s Ambassador Patrick Kennedy as well as at
least one person from Senator Joe Biden’s staff, of course Senator
Joe Biden being the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee.
Still on the heels
of that, let’s bring in Kendall Coffey, the man you just saw there,
he’s a former U.S. Attorney, a partner in the law firm of Coffey and
Burlington as well as being a Hillary Clinton supporter. Good
morning to you.
KENDALL COFFEY:
Good morning Alex.
ALEX WITT:
When you think about this case, what are some of the unanswered
questions that are jumping right out at you.
KENDALL COFFEY:
Well they come at two levels. The more serious potential criminal
investigation, the issues are going to be why and where. Why were
these three different individuals, in three separate months, looking
into the matter? And where, if anywhere, did the information go
outside the State Department? On the purely administrative level,
the question is: Does the State Department know what its own people
are doing? How did this happen three times and it took literally
weeks before anybody became aware of it?
ALEX WITT:
Three times of
late but we certainly remember of course Secretary Rice saying every
effort will be made to make sure this doesn’t happen again. That was
probably uttered - or similar statement - with the incident
involving Clinton’s passport. That happened back in 1992 so what
kind of safeguards need to be put in place that may not be there
already?
KENDALL COFFEY:
Yeah, as you
pointed out as Yogi Berra would say, “It’s déjà vu all over again”,
very similar to what happened in ’92. If anything, that was a pretty
clear partisan effort to get the goods on Bill Clinton and maybe
whether there some kind of efforts he made with respect to his
citizenship in order to dodge the draft.
They supposedly put systems in place so
that when high profile individual’s passport information is accessed
notifications happen. It didn’t happen here. A footnote on the last
investigation was - nobody was criminally charged but there were
plenty of embarrassments, plenty of criticisms made and apparently a
problem that still has not been completely solved.
ALEX WITT:
Okay, Kendall, we
are just getting word from the Associated Press that Secretary of
State Condoleeza Rice has said apparently not just Barack Obama but
also Senator Hillary Clinton last year at some point in 2007 had her
passport file breached so again as this investigation is getting
underway, Secretary of State Rice saying they will get to the bottom
of it and among the things they are finding out now -- again Senator
Hillary Clinton’s passport file was breached back in 2007 -- so if
you all get this, Kendall, I know it’s early to have any sort of
resolute answer to this, but do you get a sense this is just as was
quoted “imprudent curiosity” on behalf of some of these public
officials, or do you think there was something politically motivated
behind this?
KENDALL COFFFEY:
Well, it’s very
troubling and I think a lot of people are going to be more inclined
toward conspiracy theory than coincidence theory. You’ve got two
high-profile democrats being examined. One of the most distressing
and frightening things, frankly, is the idea that confidential
federal files can be accessed for snooping on political candidates.
That would be an utter cancer in our system and so I think this is a
kind of thing where you are going to see an outcry and a demand for
some kind of an independent council, a top to bottom investigation
and there is going to be no stones left unturned. They are going to
be looking under every blade of grass to find out if there was a
political motivation and again, Alex, very important, where was that
information going to because there are plenty of potential federal
crimes that can be explored and considered if, in fact, this
information was being sought for any improper purpose.
ALEX WITT:
And exactly what
that information is we have yet to know for certain at this point.
Kendall Coffey - thank you very much for your insight.
